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		<title>Comment on Manson Cultists Held In Shootout by Sammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles &quot;Chuck&quot; Lovett was in my 5th grade class in Van Nuys, CA. 
His last name was Brown, then one day it was changed to Lovett.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles &#8220;Chuck&#8221; Lovett was in my 5th grade class in Van Nuys, CA.<br />
His last name was Brown, then one day it was changed to Lovett.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sharon Tate, Friends Died One By One, Lawyers Say by Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=960#comment-1701</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent site. The best!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Los Angeles Police Search For Killers&#8217; Bloody Clothing by George Vreeland Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=1919#comment-1690</link>
		<dc:creator>George Vreeland Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live near where the Tate killings took place. 
The whole thing is a shame to this day. 

George Vreeland Hill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live near where the Tate killings took place.<br />
The whole thing is a shame to this day. </p>
<p>George Vreeland Hill</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Tragic Trip to the House on the Hill by thomas paalo miriani</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=353#comment-1682</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas paalo miriani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 03:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the comment about the union of two separate worlds is the understatement of the entire Tate Files.  Not only more than two of those but also more than just the two wedded partners.  Not just coincidental that their nearly hidden residence was later invaded by a group two years after the much publicized funeral of hippie two years prior.  History may later vindicate the love/anti war movement, but the testimony of Miss Susan Atkins cannot now be revealed.  Known as a &quot;sexy murderess&quot;, she is obviously one of the blots on an era not truly understood, like herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the comment about the union of two separate worlds is the understatement of the entire Tate Files.  Not only more than two of those but also more than just the two wedded partners.  Not just coincidental that their nearly hidden residence was later invaded by a group two years after the much publicized funeral of hippie two years prior.  History may later vindicate the love/anti war movement, but the testimony of Miss Susan Atkins cannot now be revealed.  Known as a &#8220;sexy murderess&#8221;, she is obviously one of the blots on an era not truly understood, like herself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 5 In Shootout With Police; Four Captured by James McInerny</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=1224#comment-1668</link>
		<dc:creator>James McInerny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 17:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember that evening as if was yesterday, many brave officers risked it all that night. The clan was dead serious...Jmc #044</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember that evening as if was yesterday, many brave officers risked it all that night. The clan was dead serious&#8230;Jmc #044</p>
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		<title>Comment on Manson Family Member Faces March Hearing by H.Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=3346#comment-1488</link>
		<dc:creator>H.Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davis was released before March 22, 1970 which was important as he is a suspect in the Zodiac case. Kathleen Johns was kidnapped by Zodiac March 22,1970. in Central CA.
See www.thezodiacmansonconnection.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davis was released before March 22, 1970 which was important as he is a suspect in the Zodiac case. Kathleen Johns was kidnapped by Zodiac March 22,1970. in Central CA.<br />
See <a href="http://www.thezodiacmansonconnection.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thezodiacmansonconnection.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Actress is Among 5 Slain at Home in Beverly Hills by Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=4#comment-1313</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand the question either.  That third paragraph - wow - is that really one sentence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand the question either.  That third paragraph &#8211; wow &#8211; is that really one sentence?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Manson Makes Wisecracks in Court by George Vreeland Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=1994#comment-866</link>
		<dc:creator>George Vreeland Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manson was and still is an idiot. 
He should have been put to death. 

George Vreeland Hill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manson was and still is an idiot.<br />
He should have been put to death. </p>
<p>George Vreeland Hill</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hippie Cult Is Linked To 2 Other Slayings by George Vreeland Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=1990#comment-865</link>
		<dc:creator>George Vreeland Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manson&#039;s cult killed more people than we will ever know. 
It is a shame that there are people like that in this world. 
At least Susan Atkins is dead. 
The others are waiting for the same fate. 

George Vreeland Hill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manson&#8217;s cult killed more people than we will ever know.<br />
It is a shame that there are people like that in this world.<br />
At least Susan Atkins is dead.<br />
The others are waiting for the same fate. </p>
<p>George Vreeland Hill</p>
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		<title>Comment on Police Refuse to Confirm Possible Murder Gun Find by George Vreeland Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=2082#comment-864</link>
		<dc:creator>George Vreeland Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 23:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a horrible crime that was. 
Many of the victims could still be alive today if it were not for Manson and his &quot;family&quot; of killers. 
What a shame. 

George Vreeland Hill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a horrible crime that was.<br />
Many of the victims could still be alive today if it were not for Manson and his &#8220;family&#8221; of killers.<br />
What a shame. </p>
<p>George Vreeland Hill</p>
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		<title>Comment on New &#8216;Cult Link&#8217; in San Jose Slayings by cielodrive.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>cielodrive.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 19:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manson was serving a 10 year sentence in McNeil Island Penitentiary when Ramona Price went missing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manson was serving a 10 year sentence in McNeil Island Penitentiary when Ramona Price went missing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New &#8216;Cult Link&#8217; in San Jose Slayings by jack tate</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=1985#comment-788</link>
		<dc:creator>jack tate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manson was the driver, Eddie Ratso, the killer.Both smuggled herion from Saigon, Manila,and Okinowa.  Manson was the undertaker,see the disappearance of Ramona PRICE,Santa Barbara.  From Fernwood to Elwood,they stold and sold drugs,etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manson was the driver, Eddie Ratso, the killer.Both smuggled herion from Saigon, Manila,and Okinowa.  Manson was the undertaker,see the disappearance of Ramona PRICE,Santa Barbara.  From Fernwood to Elwood,they stold and sold drugs,etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Glasses may be clue in Sharon Tate case by cielodrive.com</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=408#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>cielodrive.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t recall ever hearing about who the glasses belonged to. Here is a mention of the glasses from “Manson In His Own Words.”

“Returning to the scene of any crime is risky business, so instead of turning up Cielo Drive, we drove past and looked up the hill to see if there was any activity that might indicate the police had arrived. Everything was quiet. Still not wanting to be too obvious, we parked the car a short distance away and walked to the premises. We entered the grounds by climbing over the fence, as the kids had done. As Sadie and Tex had said, the first victim’s car was off the driveway a short distance from the gate. Going by Tex’s description of how he had approached the car and how he had pushed it, I carefully wiped the car clean of possible finger prints without disturbing the body of the boy who lay dead inside.

“Approaching a house where you know there are dead bodies has a spine-chilling effect, and I think if I had been alone, I might have forgotten about continuing any farther. My partner probably felt the same way, but neither of us spoke and we did go on to see the whole gory mess. Tex and Sadie’s description had been accurate. What I was seeing was not a scene from a movie or some horrible acid fantasy, but real people who would never see the morning’s sun. I’d had thoughts of creating a scene more in keeping with a black-against-white retaliation, but in looking around, I lost the heart to carry out my plans. The two of us took towels and wiped every place a fingerprint could have been left. I then placed the towel I was using over the head of the man inside the room. My partner had an old pair of eyeglasses which we often used as a magnifying glass or as a device to start a fire when matches weren’t available. We carefully wiped the glasses free of prints and dropped them on the floor, so that, when discovered, they would be a misleading clue for the police. Within an hour and twenty minutes after leaving Spahn, we were back. The sun was already bringing the light of day as I crawled in bed with Stephanie.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recall ever hearing about who the glasses belonged to. Here is a mention of the glasses from “Manson In His Own Words.”</p>
<p>“Returning to the scene of any crime is risky business, so instead of turning up Cielo Drive, we drove past and looked up the hill to see if there was any activity that might indicate the police had arrived. Everything was quiet. Still not wanting to be too obvious, we parked the car a short distance away and walked to the premises. We entered the grounds by climbing over the fence, as the kids had done. As Sadie and Tex had said, the first victim’s car was off the driveway a short distance from the gate. Going by Tex’s description of how he had approached the car and how he had pushed it, I carefully wiped the car clean of possible finger prints without disturbing the body of the boy who lay dead inside.</p>
<p>“Approaching a house where you know there are dead bodies has a spine-chilling effect, and I think if I had been alone, I might have forgotten about continuing any farther. My partner probably felt the same way, but neither of us spoke and we did go on to see the whole gory mess. Tex and Sadie’s description had been accurate. What I was seeing was not a scene from a movie or some horrible acid fantasy, but real people who would never see the morning’s sun. I’d had thoughts of creating a scene more in keeping with a black-against-white retaliation, but in looking around, I lost the heart to carry out my plans. The two of us took towels and wiped every place a fingerprint could have been left. I then placed the towel I was using over the head of the man inside the room. My partner had an old pair of eyeglasses which we often used as a magnifying glass or as a device to start a fire when matches weren’t available. We carefully wiped the glasses free of prints and dropped them on the floor, so that, when discovered, they would be a misleading clue for the police. Within an hour and twenty minutes after leaving Spahn, we were back. The sun was already bringing the light of day as I crawled in bed with Stephanie.”</p>
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		<title>Comment on Glasses may be clue in Sharon Tate case by NikkiLee</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=408#comment-630</link>
		<dc:creator>NikkiLee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 04:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was the owner of these glasses ever connected?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was the owner of these glasses ever connected?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Manson Once Was Student In Kanawha by cielodrive.com</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=1793#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>cielodrive.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/3gymmsv&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; link &lt;/a&gt;to the address mentioned in the article
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a <a href="http://tinyurl.com/3gymmsv" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> link </a>to the address mentioned in the article</p>
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		<title>Comment on Woman Linked To 2 Slayings Is Not Iowan by Thomas D. Reisinger</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=1714#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas D. Reisinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>15 Sept 11

I believe Leslie was born or raised in either Cedar Falls or Cedar Rapids, IA. I was told that her grandmother resided in Cedar Falls.</description>
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<p>I believe Leslie was born or raised in either Cedar Falls or Cedar Rapids, IA. I was told that her grandmother resided in Cedar Falls.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Police Raid Ranch, Arrest 26 Suspects In Auto Theft Ring by Thomas D. Reisinger</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=324#comment-420</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas D. Reisinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>15 Sept 11

Were porn films found inside the Tate residence? One of the children taken into custody was possibly connected to the JonBenet Ramsey slaying. Allegedly, this child appeared in at least one of these films.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15 Sept 11</p>
<p>Were porn films found inside the Tate residence? One of the children taken into custody was possibly connected to the JonBenet Ramsey slaying. Allegedly, this child appeared in at least one of these films.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tate Murder Case to Break Soon: Seer by cielodrive.com</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=704#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>cielodrive.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that can&#039;t be her if you remember her from the 60&#039;s. The actress that plays &quot;Flo&quot; was born in 1970. Looks like the girl you knew has a blog though. http://www.stephanyhurkos.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that can&#8217;t be her if you remember her from the 60&#8242;s. The actress that plays &#8220;Flo&#8221; was born in 1970. Looks like the girl you knew has a blog though. <a href="http://www.stephanyhurkos.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.stephanyhurkos.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Tate Murder Case to Break Soon: Seer by Dr. Oren Swearingen</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=704#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Oren Swearingen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 03:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious to know if Peter&#039;s widow, Stephaney Courtney, is the same person that plays the character, &quot;Flo&quot; for Progressive Insurance ?  If it is she sure looks different !  I was involved with Peter in a business venture back in the &#039;60&#039;s when &#039;Steffy&#039; was merely his secretary and always wore the cutest micro-mini skirt you ever saw ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious to know if Peter&#8217;s widow, Stephaney Courtney, is the same person that plays the character, &#8220;Flo&#8221; for Progressive Insurance ?  If it is she sure looks different !  I was involved with Peter in a business venture back in the &#8217;60&#8242;s when &#8216;Steffy&#8217; was merely his secretary and always wore the cutest micro-mini skirt you ever saw ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arrest Three Hippies In Sharon Tate Murder Case by George Vreeland Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.cielodrive.com/archive/?p=752#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>George Vreeland Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The five victims of August 9, 1969, deserved to live long lives. 
Those lives were cut short because of Charles Manson. 
Manson is evil and should have been put to death. 
Long live Sharon, Jay, Abigail, Steve and Wojciech. 
They are forever in our hearts. 

George Vreeland Hill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The five victims of August 9, 1969, deserved to live long lives.<br />
Those lives were cut short because of Charles Manson.<br />
Manson is evil and should have been put to death.<br />
Long live Sharon, Jay, Abigail, Steve and Wojciech.<br />
They are forever in our hearts. </p>
<p>George Vreeland Hill</p>
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