“He spoke mostly of Revelation 9”
Jan. 29 – In part two of the February 20, 1970 Gregg Jakobson interview, Gregg and Deputy District Attorney Vincent Bugliosi discuss the Beatles, Charlie Manson’s impressions of the White Album and Revelation 9.
“Did Charlie play revolution 9 quite a bit?” questions Bugliosi.
“Oh yeah,” answers Jakobson. “Revelation 9 and Blackbirds and Helter Skelter.”
“[Charlie] used these [songs] as arguments to back his beliefs; that the revolution was at hand. All these things he would turn around, to mean to him, that look out man, Helter Skelter is coming down, it’s time to choose sides.”
Gregg Jakobson, 30 years-old at the time of this interview, was a musician and talent scout who met Charlie Manson in the spring of 1968 at his friend’s house, Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson.
Born an orphan in St. Paul, Minnesota, Jakobson moved to California with his adopted mother in the early 1950s. In high school Gregg began acting, eventually landing a small role on The Doris Day Show, where he befriended her son, Terry Melcher.
Jakobson, who found the Manson “family” interesting and often discussed philosophy with Charlie, talked about wanting to film a documentary on the group’s lifestyle.
He testified for the state in the first Tate-LaBianca murder trial, again in 1971 when Tex Watson was tried, and finally in 1977 when Leslie Van Houten was retried.
Jakobson co-wrote two albums with his friend Dennis Wilson, Pacific Ocean Blue and Bambu. Dennis passed away during the recording of Bambu and the album was shelved until 2007 when Jakobson was finally able to get it released.
Deputy District Attorney Vincent T. Bugliosi
Deputy District Attorney Vincent T. Bugliosi, 35 years-old at the time of this interview, had been with the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office for 5 years. Born in Hibbing, Minnesota, Bugliosi had attended the University of Miami on a tennis scholarship, followed by law school at UCLA .
Bugliosi became a member of the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office in 1964. He was assigned to the Tate-LaBianca murder case on November 18, 1969.
During his 8 year career with the District Attorney’s office, Bugliosi tried 106 felony jury trials, obtaining convictions in all but one case. In 1972 and 1976 he ran for District Attorney but lost in both elections.
Vincent Bugliosi’s book about the Manson case, Helter Skelter, was released in 1974 and went on to become the best selling true crime book of all time.
Best tape of all that have been posted thus far. Fascinating from beginning to end.
Will transcripts of the recordings ever be provided?
I think I’m going to transcribe this and the Al Springer interviews. When? I have no idea. I don’t really have the time, but at some point I’d like to include those.
Any news on the transcriptions yet ?
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