LOS ANGELES, Jan. 19 – Jurors in the Tate-LaBianca murder trial sought permission Monday to visit, after dark, the scenes of the seven murders but the request was denied.

Superior Judge Charles H. Older rejected a defense motion to reopen the seven-month-old case to permit the visits. Older reportedly reasoned that the visits would be tantamount to receiving evidence again.

Older informed jurors of his decision near the end of the second full day of deliberation.

However, the judge said he was granting requests by jury foreman Herman Tubick for a descriptive list of specific prosecution exhibits and for a phonograph.

Tubick asked for the phonograph to play a Beatles album, introduced by the prosecution in support of a suggested motive for mass murder.

The album includes the song “Helter Skelter,” a name which, according to prosecutor Vincent T. Bugliosi, came to mean a black-white race war to Charles Manson.

Bugliosi suggested that one of the motives for the seven killings was Manson’s attempts to set off racial strife by savage, ghastly murders and blood writings, using words that appear in Beatles songs.

Older told the jury he would have a bailiff play the entire 84-minute album, then replay any song a juror might want to hear.

The jurors retired to listen to the music and ended their deliberations at 4:30 p.m. to return to the Ambassador, where they have been sequestered since July.

Security has been tightened at the Hall of Justice since the case went to the jury last Friday. Lines formed outside the entrances as officers searched those who entered.

There have been rumors of possible violence if Manson and the three women co-defendants, Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel and Leslie Van Houten, are convicted.

By JOHN KENDALL